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  1. Erin on August 27, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    I found this one of the most interesting chapters, both in relation to my life and faith. I’ve been reading the Bible and the recurrent nomadic pastoralist theme, or things which only make sense in a nomadic pastoralist perspective, has been very clear to me. It highlights God as a relational being. You can’t have a relationship with crops, but you can with animals. Also, a sedentary society could be seen as more self sufficient….they have gardens and irrigation and pastures, etc. Whereas the life of a nomadic pastoralist is more dependent on God’s providence. Sedentary agriculture promotes claiming of the land and territoriality, while the nomad claims no land. Just as a teenager borrows their parent’s car, we borrow the earth and all our possessions from God.

    Not only does the nomadic pastoralist need to learn their own language, they also need to learn the language(s) of the species(es) they are custodian of. So, is oxytocin the (God given) glue that holds the nomadic pastoralist society together?

    Has Belyaev’s experiment been replicated with other species? Its very intriguing. The idea that breeding for behavior yields a domesticated phenotype.



    • LindaKohanov on August 27, 2012 at 11:41 pm

      Thanks Erin. Your words and the thoughts behind them are very profound and eloquent. I’m inspired!

      As for other experiments similar to Beleyev’s, I don’t know of any. This information just now seems to be getting out to a wider public. However, I also think that in this day and age there is less support for experiments that would try to domesticate a wild animal, as many animal activitists are disturbed by the fox experiment, as it turns out. (I did find the way that they confined these animals, pulled them away from their mothers so early, and gave them no social life with other foxes or humans disturbing, actually. However, I’m willing to look at the information as valuable, while still recgonzing that the 20th century methods were very callous toward the animals.)

      So there is always that question of what kind of science has compassion and integrity? There are many experiments done on animals, and humans for that matter, in the 20th century that would not be acceptable in the 21st. So perhaps, from a humane, nature-respecting, standpoint, we must be content with the fox experiment and what it suggests, while reconizing that this new subspecies of fox must be cared for and given the affection these animals request and so richly deserve.



  2. Ianrowcliffe on August 17, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Re:When tempestuous emotions churn inside like whirlwinds, imagine stepping into eye of
    the hurricane (where it’s clear and sunny, as anyone who’s ever been in a hurricane
    knows). There you can address these powerful energies without getting caught in the
    spin. You can interpret incoming reports from the “National Weather Service” and
    decide what actions to avoid or what routes to take — as we are continually presented with crisis scenarios, this has already become second nature to most of us:-)



  3. Ianrowcliffe on August 17, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Re: GP7

    Re:Neither would it have been useful to ignore the emergency, announce in my smoothest FM radio voice, “There is no fear, only peace and harmony,”

    That is funny! But doesn’t it remind you of how impersonal and apparently unconcerned newscasters typically are. It is as though it is all a fabrication, something contrived for the audience and not really to do with coming up with solutions for real needs. I can’t say I have come across anyone conveying the News meaningfully of late…



  4. Ianrowcliffe on August 17, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    I thought the chapter and call left us with a lot of loose ends – I found myself exclaiming time and time again, this is an example of a single factor fallacy! So let’s see if some of those loose ends meet in the next chapter:-)



    • Linda Kohanov on August 18, 2012 at 11:41 pm

      Yes, these are many new elements brought into this chapter that will be referred to and combined in future chapters. The principles in this chapter are not arbitarily chosen. They have been essential to me in negotiating extreme, life-threatening experiences with abused/aggressive horses, as I will outline in chapters nine and ten, where I bring in my personal experience with a violent stallion. Observations, theories and principles that have saved my life, and principles that have enhanced my life, do not seem to be single factor fallacies to me personally. It all feels logical and organic to me. That is the challenge in translating this experience-driven perspective into linear words, to offer current theories and vocabulary that I can use to reflect on experiences that challenge current concepts of reality, horse training, etc.

      In this effort, I highly recommend healthy skepticism at all times, because what appears to be true may be only part of the picture. To be a bit more clear on this point, I’m offering an excerpt from Chapter Ten:

      “Innovators must walk a razor’s edge, entering the great unmapped territory of human experience without getting lost or going crazy. Here skepticism becomes a healthy tool—if it isn’t used to disregard feelings and forces that defy the current world view. It’s therefore important to remember that from a limited sensory perspective, the appearances of most phenomena are misleading.

      Even so, life’s mysteries shouldn’t be worshipped or dismissed because we can’t see the whole picture. The moon, after all, seems to wax, wane, die and be reborn each month because it’s reflecting a temporarily hidden sun in relation to the earth’s shadow. And it is here that art, science, and utility merge. Lunar cycles inspire poets and control ocean tides. The soft, blue light flowing over the landscape is aesthetically stirring and deeply comforting—perhaps even more so because we now know that the harmonious interaction of three celestial bodies gives rise to this subtle nocturnal luminosity, motivating us to explore other areas where relationship creates functional, mutually-supportive realities that are, at the same time, magnificent to behold.

      Still, midnight travelers don’t need a working knowledge of astronomy for the moon to light their way. And so it is with the invisible, inexplicable forces that horse trainers and other leaders can draw upon to reach their goals, and even help change the world, before cutting-edge science, let alone culturally accepted thought, can even begin to catch up.”