1. Mark on September 11, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Hi Folks – Heard via Linda (and Ian) that the reply notification feature is not working. I have deleted and re-installed it, so let’s see if it works now. If not, I will try another similar plugin. Apologies for issues, things sometimes stop working and one has no idea of when or why!

  2. Susan Garvin on September 11, 2012 at 6:47 am

    I would post this on a different chapter page but I am concerned that it will get lost since email notifications don’t seem to be happening any more so forgive me if it souldn’t be here. however it is about the evolution towards non-predatory power so maybe it would fit in anywhere….
    Intersting snippet of news on Italian radio this morning. It seems a school teacher in Sicily has been jailed for 2 weeks – she made the 11-year-old class bully sit down and write out 100 times ‘Io sono un deficiente’ which basically means ‘i am mentally deficient’. The magistrates who sentenced the teacher stated that it was inappropriate to make the bully write this because the mental attitude of bullying is not affected or changed by a sort of return bullying, that it does not help the bully to learn more appropriate interpersonal and social behaviour. What a contradictory message the teacher sent out! and what a contradictory message the court sent out. double standards? inconsistency? just clumsy and half-baked? While the teacher wanted to punish bullying, she used bullying tactics herself. While the court wanted to promote a healthy concept of individual and social behaviour it put the teacher in the slammer! Hopefully however this is actually a step in the right direction, albeit a pretty clumsy one, in that maybe there is a glimmer of realisation that HOW we deal with predatory power is an important step towards diminishing it in favour of other values.

  3. Susan Garvin on September 9, 2012 at 11:15 am

    My horse is a gelding, he is very sensitive and needs respectful handling. If he were treated like Merlin he too would become deranged, I believe. You cannot use force or loudness, punishment or roughness with him, it is counter-productive. I imagine many horses are like this, of course, and just knowing how my horse would react and then deteriorate if he were to get that sort of treatment I can sort of imagine what Merlin was like….jeepers Linda what courage and conviction you had! I take my hat off to you! How this line speaks to me ‘I learned that kindness wasn’t enough….I had to access the yang inside the yin….’. It has been quite a journey for me too, less dramatic but no less instructive!
    This chapter is marvellous, LInda!

    • Susan Garvin on September 9, 2012 at 11:20 am

      oooops hit ‘submit comment’ by mistake!
      the chapter is marvellous because it really really does start making the invisible visible. I have always had a problem with the ‘leap of faith’ one needs to actually ‘get’ anything out of writings about the ‘invisible’, mainly because I always doubted my own ability to really ‘get the point’, always feeling the need to express what I had understood and get a ‘tick, yes that is it’ comment from teacher. Here however I do begin to have less need for this procedure and feel I am learning to relax into the river indeed….your guidance so far through this book and particularly in this Chapter has been invaluable!
      off topic – I am not getting any email notifications, have not had them for weeks….anyone else having the same problem? Mark – should I manage this somehow from my end???

      • Ian Rowcliffe on September 9, 2012 at 2:32 pm

        With respect to your last comment, email notifications have also stopped for me as well and when posting there is some sort of error message. If I reload the page, though, I can see that the post has been registered. So yes, there seems to be a glitch in the software, MARK!

        • Ian Rowcliffe on September 9, 2012 at 2:33 pm

          This was the response after my last post yet again: “Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class phpmailerException in /home/poweroft/public_html/wp-includes/class-phpmailer.php on line 2531”

          • Susan Garvin on September 9, 2012 at 8:11 pm

            hi Ian, yes I’m getting that error message too! tried to re-submit several times but was told ‘you already submitte dthat!’ then got cross and went to another page….when I returned lo and behold my comment was there. snarl….but at least it was there!!!!

      • LindaKohanov on September 9, 2012 at 2:35 pm

        Thanks Susan. This is high praise indeed! I’m so glad that a chapter on the amorphous world of those things normally invisible and nonverbal worked for you. This was a challenge I almost didn’t undertake in leadership book, but at the same time, leadership presence and charisma and conviction are all invisible qualities that nonetheless add to effectiveness. And there are all those elements of horse training that are so hard to put into words.

        As for the email notifications, I too have not been receiving them and have notified Mark about this. I will let him know again.

        Glad to hear you are combining sensitivity and power with your own potentially volitile gelding! Best wishes to you both!

        • Susan Garvin on September 9, 2012 at 8:28 pm

          Thanks Linda, I am so glad you persevered. Please tell your editor that this chapter for me was revelatory and made me sing…..
          My gelding – MIki – was abused in the sadly ‘normal’ sense that he was weaned far too early, was turned out with other young ones like Lord of the Flies w ithno guiding adult presence, then put into show jumping training….fortunately for him his then-owner turned up unannounced at the training yard one day and what he saw horrified him so much he loaded MIki up and took him away…so the scars Miki certainly has were inflicted young but then he went into a kind of limbo where he ‘worked’ little but also had almost none of the social life and respectful treatment he needs, so when he chose me, at age 9 (his nine, my 57 :-)) he still needed a lot of understanding and therapy, as did I. We have grown a lot together and I thank Carolyn Resnick from the bottom of my heart for that. It took him a long time to trust me enough to show his real self. I recall I started with clicker training and it was heart-breaking to see how he literally did not DARE express his opinion or start to experiment. At the beginning he would panic – imagine this – if I tried to clean out his hooves without haltering and tying him up, he just freaked. Now he is a free horse and we negotiate everything. I pick out his feet in the field or the yard, untied, and he knows when I say ‘come here look at this’ there is something good in it for him. Again, this is all to say that what Miki endured and experienced is nothing compared to Merlin, but it gives me a shadow of what you were up against…..

  4. Ianrowcliffe on September 9, 2012 at 9:47 am

    Well, this chapter 9 is so different from the original one released on the Epona Site. Hence, a really interesting question would be for Linda to describe how one led to the other.

    Re:So at this point, would it really surprise anyone to learn that before he became
    enlightened, the Buddha was revered as an exceptional horseman? — It is going to be interesting how you will make this significant as apparently he excelled at virtually everything he undertook…

    “As the young prince grew up he mastered all the traditional arts and sciences without needing any instruction. He knew sixty-four different languages, each with their own alphabet, and he was also very skilled at mathematics. He once told his father that he could count all the atoms in the world in the time it takes to draw a single breath.”

    Nevertheless, we are back to explaining the other 90 percent again and this chapter certainly homes in on that once more and how we are forced to use metaphor and story telling to ‘try’ to convey the ‘no’-tion.

    I enjoyed re-visiting Midnight Merlin and all he stands for – in fact, I started re-reading He (Robert A Johnson) on understanding masculine psychology. And recognized the Red Knight and all the other Knights Parsifal has to defeat as very similar to stallion behavior. Of course, we traditionally would see that as leading to winning the herd, but according to the interpretation in the book, the stallion would be coming to terms with his anima, his own feminine side – and isn’t that just the side of him that makes him stand apart as ‘THE’ stallion.

    Looking forward to the talk – great going, Linda!

    • LindaKohanov on September 9, 2012 at 2:43 pm

      Thanks Ian. The Chapter 9 originally posted on the Epona website is now chapter 11, so that one will be coming up soon. This book has far expanded in scope since that time.

      I’m so glad this chapter on “The Invisible” worked for you too Ian. Of all the chapters in my book, my own editor was least excited about this one, apparantly thinking people would find it too vague or something. But what you see is a version that I updated to make more clear after his initial comments, so perhaps the changes worked!

      More info on the Buddha in the next chapter.

      I will have to check out Johnson’s book He. I’ve read some of his other books, but not that one. Interesting idea you bring up about the knights that Parsifal has to defeat as being perhaps mal-socialized, abused, or adolescent elements of the masculine psyche….Fascinating….